I am one of the customers that had to order Large and XL, even after talking to the employees via the chat and using the sizing chart, I just happened to fall in between those sizes. In the end the XL was more comfortable in the waist and hips however the cuffs were a little loose but I could live with that as I tend to pull my shorts up a little on the legs. The good 1. I Like the waist design and fit, I actually like it better that the FC-Pro Lites that I kept. 2. The fabric is very comfortable 3. The price was more inline with my budget Could be better 1. I prefer my shorts a bit shorter in the leg, probably like the FC-Pro Short - Shorter Inseam (I am going to order a pair of these next) 2. The chamois (this is why I returned them). There is not enough chamois up front, if these shorts used the chamois from the FC-Pro line I would have kept them. the FC-Pro chamois has a larger area in the front of the shorts. To the credit of the staff when I was chatting with them, they actually mentioned that some customers like the FC-Pro chamois over this one because of this.